Kinsky and ROCKI

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by mileso » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:56 pm

Kinsky is free open source DLNA/UPnp "Control Point" software for iOS, Android, Windows, Mac, and Linux. It works for sending individual songs from a DLNA server to a ROCKI but it appears to require "State Eventing" to monitor playback and change tracks. Does ROCKI support "State Eventing" or plan to in the future?

One feature of Kinksy is the ability to support separate playlists for different "rooms," but without the ability to change tracks, it is not really very useful..

My ultimate objective is to be able to run a program on a Windows computer to send music to multiple ROCKIs (either the same stream to all devices or separate streams for each device) using an iOS device as controller. Since I run a DLNA server on my WIndows server, the Kinsky software is a good start, but the "State Eventing" would have to work and it does not appear to support a single playlist for multiple "rooms."

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by Simon » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:36 am

Hi @mileso!

I just had a look at Kinsky. Installed it on my PC but couldn't really get it to work.

Could you elaborate about 'State eventing'? I saw the short line LinnOss wrote about it but I'm not fully getting it.

One feature of Kinksy is the ability to support separate playlists for different "rooms," but without the ability to change tracks, it is not really very useful..


Separate playlists for different rooms sounds cool but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to change tracks. ROCKI just plays back whatever is streamed to him. So if you change the track in the software, ROCKI will play the next track.

We will soon be releasing the ROCKI multi room feature so you'll then be able to use our apps to control your different ROCKIS throughout the rooms.
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by JLC » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:24 pm

I was trying Kinsky on my Linux machine. It works, usually, but is rather unstable. However, which it did work, it was excellent.
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by mileso » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:47 pm

This is just conjecture on my part, but I think "State Eventing" is the ability for the DLNA device to send updates on it's current state back to the controller. In this case Kinsky probably uses the state feedback to determine the current playback position of the track (for display in the GUI) and also when then track has completed so Kinsky can send the next track in the playlist. Without knowledge of the playback progress, the Kinksy software cannot advance the playlist. From their description, "State Eventing" is a separate, optional part of the DLNA specification.
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by Simon » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:44 am

Alright. I see. Well, the ROCKI doesn't support that for now but it's been brought to the attention. Who knows, it might make the cut to a next version of ROCKI. Thanks for bringing it up!
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